I got an iPhone today. Finally, a phone that seems rock solid on the software side.

Anyways,
I've had 3 android devices and all of them have been nothing but a shitstorm. (4 if you count a sketchy Chinese tablet, but I don't).

The first was a HTC Incredible 2. It was ok for about a day, and then the sh*t tide began to rise. Within a week it was crashing daily and shutting off by itself at night, causing me to miss my morning alarms and other aggravating nonsense. Not to mention the horrible battery life, but that's more HTC's fault then android. Oh, and it was slow. (HTC Sense).

The next was a Motorola Droid X2. I returned the above within the replacement policy, and bought this. This was little better than the DINC2 above, but had it's own issues. I bought into a full blow sh*t hurricane. It was faster and it didn't turn itself off randomly, but it still lacked the power to render many of the *default* menu or screen animations or transitions. That is absolutely pathetic and disgusted me. A $500 phone with a dual core, and the OS still runs like junk? How the hell did that get through quality control? For shame. By the time the phone was a month old, it was crashing and rebooting at least twice daily, and many more app freezes and junk. I did full factory resets, stock and custom roms, all that jazz. I wanted to like the phone, it looked good and could do a lot of junk. But again, terrible battery life. The final staw was when it refused to type. Keys vibrated and autosuggestions came up, no text made it into the field. Insane. I factory reset and powered off the phone for the last time then and there. (after reboots, of course).

I transferred my cell account to my faithful old blackberry to hold me over on communication until I got a new phone.

Bought an iPhone the next day. Not a SINGLE issue ever since. I can do everything the droid can, without all the fckups.

The moral of this story:
If you want a phone with a rock solid operating system, professional quality dev tools, and no headache, buy an iPhone.
If you want a phone that might perform better at times, but has an unstable operating system, mediocre dev tools, and a entire hacked-together air to it, buy an android. Don't you try to say my phones were defective, what are the chances of getting *this* many? Know that app that crashed on your android today? Yeah, wouldn't of happened if you manned up to an iPhone.

Seriously. Don't fall for the advertising gimmicks of dual core, and 512mb ram, and big flashy 3d screens. Put your money where it counts - a stable and consistent user experience. App developers, this goes for you too. Eclipse is a giant shipping crate of sh*t. As is java (and I don't care what android apps get compiled to or whatever, it's still java).

That concludes my rant for tonight.

Oh, and RIM devices are still better too. My ol' Blackberry Tour is incredibly stable. It's just old though.

I did get Verizon to ship me a replacement droid X2. (I've gotten 3 droids for the price of one, Verizon better be losing money to me!). If anyone wants to buy a sealed in-box Droid X2, droid x/x2 car dock & car charger, let me know. 450$ including S&H, whole package only. You'd be getting the phone at list price, but get the dock and charger for free. I'll be listing it on ebay but you all get first dibs. I'll even show you how to upgrade it to rooted 2.3 gingerbread.

Links for price comparison:
Phone - $449: http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=5658&deviceCategoryId=1
Dock & Charger - $25: http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehicle-Charger-Retail-Packaging/dp/B0042I7AUE/

Also, inb4 android circlejerkers.

I agree that it's all about your personal preference. Oh, and congratulations on your new phone!

I've never had an iPhone, but my iPad experience has been fairly positive. Its battery life is excellent, of course. The idle power dissipation is low because everything "just fits" into the system the right way; but during actual usage, I find it comparable to my new Android tablet (a Nook Color). The only complaints I have are against the subpar music collection handling and the general iTunes dependence, but Cydia fixes most things.

Android, on the other hand, does not feel as polished. However, it tends to be much more functional (including where I'd expect Apple to excel: music). My Nook Color might be slightly lacking in hardware (2 point touch compared to the iPad's 10 point touch, fewer pixels on the screen, no ambient light sensor, ...), but I am already starting to use it quite a bit.

Have you tried CyanogenMod on your Android device? I like to go as close to the AOSP as I could (because I think manufacturer/carrier-specific UI's are superfluous, including HTC Sense), but I highly recommend CyanogenMod for its balance of AOSP and functionality.

I think the consensus amongst hackers like us is that Android devices are better with custom ROM's (you know, those that're made by hackers for hackers). iDevices are also better with custom ROM's... oh wait. Cydia is great, though; I tossed my EULA and warranty out the window the day I got my iPad.

In response to ulti: third-party UI's are allowed so as to make Android a more attractive platform to hardware manufacturers.

Android running on iPhone

Ah, what a shame :x But still, I noticed that there's no proper GPU support for any iDevice... and I'd like to mention that performance (for most things, including just scrolling menus) goes down the drain without hardware acceleration.

But yeah, Android kinda sucks with HTC Sense and many other third-party UI's. I couldn't blame you for disliking it.

The only nice thing about sense is the widgets, they're gold. But other than that it's a bad battery hog.

id support rim as they have been at it longer

Canadian Above. Watch out

After owning a Blackberry Curve, a HTC Wildfire, and the iPhones 3GS/4, I can say hands down the iPhone wins.

First: Blackberry Curve. I've never had a phone that is so unstable. A friend of mine had one and nearly every time I saw her she had to take the battery out and restart it because it had frozen, and this was the same with mine and various other peoples. The UI is awful, and when they do work the keyboard is that small you need baby fingers to press one button at a time (specific to the curve however).

HTC Wildfire: Brilliant phone when it works, froze a few times and apps would just crash when they please.

I had the iPhone 3GS first of all the phones and that was a rock solid phone, never had any problems with it. The only reason I switched to a curve is because I stupidly dropped it down a toilet during a night out and destroyed it with no insurance (long story with tmi for here!).

Finally after the wildfire I got a iPhone 4. Flawless. Ive dropped it god knows how many times - its battered and bruised but still not a scratch or a crack on the "oh so fragile" screen.   Never frozen (although I admit with some very specific apps it can slow due to CPU usage, however this is to be expected when running such intensive apps on a mobile device). I also feel it is the nicest looking of the phones, and the easiest to use UI wise. The app store is a doddle, and I have no problems paying £0.59 for an app, imo the developer earned it (I know apple takes a slice but meh, corporations for you), and there are plenty of free ones!. Finally my favourite part of the iPhone - iTunes. I have yet to find a phone that syncs as easily and integrates with my workflow as good as the iPhone (I personally favour iTunes as my media player)

havent used it in ages

There's your problem. Computers like to be used.

@Brad hell yeah iTunes. Takes a hefty bit of power to push (on a PC), but if you've got it, it runs so nicely.

Thought of this when I was on the toilet today too -

Quote from: Mop on August 28, 2011, 11:34:28 AM

Android running on iPhone

Ah, what a shame :x But still, I noticed that there's no proper GPU support for any iDevice...

Is there ANY device that android has proper GPU support for? I had seen smooth animations on my droids about 50%-70% of the time, and lower than that on stock roms. I've always noticed frameskip or stuttering on any kind of transition or swipe.

Excluded from this tally are the menu key pop-over menus, any sort of animation during video playback (I'd expect those to be slower), and anything after first boot. And anything in the web browser (which always suck, but that's acceptable.)

Whereas, on everything from my 1st gen touch to iPhone, I see upwards of 90% of 'successful' (non-frameskip or stuttered animation). Excluded from this is stuff in the browser.

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Have I mentioned the android simulator (for development) is pitiful?

Ha, and you speak of function regarding a non-jailbroken device...

Is there ANY device that android has proper GPU support for? I had seen smooth animations on my droids about 50%-70% of the time, and lower than that on stock roms. I've always noticed frameskip or stuttering on any kind of transition or swipe.

Yeah, my G1 is awesome. It's been slow recently because I've obviously pushed it way past its designed lifetime, but it was pretty snappy before I loaded Android 2.3.* on it, and even faster on versions < 2.* (but who uses these now?).

My Nook Color running B&N's OS stutters quite a bit. After I put the latest CyanogenMod build on it, he animations were much smoother. It's not perfect, but perfection is not something I'd expect from a nightly development build. I'm just saying that you could usually expect improved performance from a third-party Android ROM.

Have I mentioned the android simulator (for development) is pitiful?

No, but I agree. I prefer to simply wire up my Android device and test on real hardware using adb.

Quote from: Brad on August 29, 2011, 01:29:44 PM

Quote from: Confuser on August 29, 2011, 12:43:05 PM

...its jailbroken...

You cant expect a jailbroken device to function with the same reliability as a standard device.

Whats the point in jailbreaking it then? i got my psp's (3) modded for better compatibility with out loosing reliability (in fact it increased)

LOL SONY