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looking to register a domain that is EXPIRED - PENDING DELETE
« on: January 24, 2013, 11:35:32 PM »
So I just happened to check on a domain name that I was interested in, and saw that it recently dropped. According to the registrar (oregoneu.com, which is apparently affiliated with Moniker?):

Domain Name: LLLL.COM
Status: EXPIRED - PENDING DELETE
Contact: [email protected]

Domain servers in listed order:
NS3.MONIKER.COM
NS4.MONIKER.COM

Record created on:        2011-01-23 18:01:30.473
Database last updated on: 2012-11-28 17:23:04.627
Domain Expires on:        2013-01-10 14:56:04.0


But according to InterNIC/Verisign:

Domain Name: LLLL.COM
Registrar: OREGONEU.COM LLC
Whois Server: whois.oregoneu.com
Referral URL: http://www.oregoneu.com
Name Server: 70185-NS1.NDOVERDRIVE.COM
Name Server: 70185-NS2.NDOVERDRIVE.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 21-jan-2013
Creation Date: 10-jan-2011
Expiration Date: 10-jan-2014


I'm somewhat of a n00b, so I was hoping for some guidance and clarification. Does this mean that even though the previous holder did not renew the domain, oregoneu.com/Moniker is still hanging onto it for whatever reason? Should I wait or pay extra to "backorder" with Moniker/SnapNames?

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Re: looking to register a domain that is EXPIRED - PENDING DELETE
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2013, 11:42:10 PM »
I would guess that LLLL.com is now owned by the registrar, and they're going to hold onto it for at least a few months, then most likely sell it at auction.

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Re: looking to register a domain that is EXPIRED - PENDING DELETE
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2013, 11:47:22 PM »
Bummer. I guess I'll just check back in a few months; no big deal if it somebody gets it by then. Maybe I should try my hand at the domain registration business! Registrar-squatting looks like fun.

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Re: looking to register a domain that is EXPIRED - PENDING DELETE
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2013, 12:47:15 AM »
Bummer. I guess I'll just check back in a few months; no big deal if it somebody gets it by then. Maybe I should try my hand at the domain registration business! Registrar-squatting looks like fun.
I think all it takes is a $10k investment with ICANN... that might be a yearly cost though, I don't recall exactly.

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Re: looking to register a domain that is EXPIRED - PENDING DELETE
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2013, 11:13:18 AM »
With most domain registrations a domain goes through several phases...
1. The domain is active.
2. The domain expires and it enters a grace period, this varies a little by registrar but usually lasts up to ~40 days, during which the prior owner can still renew it for no extra charge.
3. The domain then leaves the grace period and enters a redemption period. This usually lasts ~30 days, during this time the prior owner can still get the domain back but at a fee determined by the registrar, most charge a few hundred dollars.
4. After the redemption period the domain will be listed as something like "Pending Deletion" for a few days and then will become open to public registration.

Pay attention to the registrar's whois database, not verisign. What has happened here is that the registrar has "renewed" the domain with verisign but they have a longer grace period to cancel and get a refund for it's purchase. Therefore when no one renews the domain through the end of the redemption period they will drop the domain.

Basically keep watching it, should not be long now if it's currently pending deletion.. like literally any day now. (Unfortunately they are not exact about these things, only god knows why)
« Last Edit: January 25, 2013, 11:15:42 AM by zzbomb »

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Re: looking to register a domain that is EXPIRED - PENDING DELETE
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2013, 11:55:37 AM »
Thanks for explaining. It seems that SnapNames is auctioning the domain until 2/14, so I guess they'd be hanging onto it until then. No bids yet, though.

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Re: looking to register a domain that is EXPIRED - PENDING DELETE
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2013, 12:57:13 PM »
Thanks for explaining. It seems that SnapNames is auctioning the domain until 2/14, so I guess they'd be hanging onto it until then. No bids yet, though.
I know there's a lot of bots for domains, so I'd recommend waiting until the last minute to make a bid. There's even bots that will take your godaddy domain searches and purchase the domain in like a week if you don't.

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Re: looking to register a domain that is EXPIRED - PENDING DELETE
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2013, 08:07:30 PM »
So if there were anybody looking to buy that domain using these bots, I'd be no match against them without resorting to the same measures. On the other hand, would they not also bid first via SnapNames at the last minute? So I'd just watch that auction page on the last day.

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Re: looking to register a domain that is EXPIRED - PENDING DELETE
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2013, 06:40:03 AM »
Logically yes but if the bot is programmed to always stay the highest bidder and someone bids first day it might kick in then.

But I would stay away from bidding till last day my self.

What puzzles me is as to why you want such a domain


If you register use gamerz300 as Referrer :P



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Re: looking to register a domain that is EXPIRED - PENDING DELETE
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2013, 12:38:41 PM »
I'm not crazy about that domain or anything -- at least, not enough for me to pay SnapNames.com $69 for it. I understand that if I did, I'd have a pretty good chance, but I'd rather just set my alarm clock and check on it manually. It's a PR0 page with no backlinks and (hopefully) no bids; the only thing going for it is its short length ;D

In fact, I'd have to figure out what to do with it; I'm not interested in squatting, personally.

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Re: looking to register a domain that is EXPIRED - PENDING DELETE
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2013, 05:57:21 PM »
Lol care to share after win or lose?


If you register use gamerz300 as Referrer :P



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Re: looking to register a domain that is EXPIRED - PENDING DELETE
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2013, 02:20:41 PM »
2/14:
Okay so... quick update: no bid today; no sale o.0
Moniker now returns No Match and SnapNames wants $999. Of course, Verisign still shows the same information and the domain is not available. Bummer~



2/24:
Alright, it seems that the domain has been in redemptionPeriod status since 2/21. This is fun!



3/25:
Status: pendingDelete
Updated Date: 24-mar-2013

Does this mean that I must snipe this domain on 3/29 sometime around 11am~2pm PDT?



3/30:
... and somebody else got to it first. There're no DNS servers yet and the contact information is private. Oh, well ;) it's been fun. TIL pendingDelete lasts 6 days.
   Registrar: NAMETURN LLC
   Whois Server: whois.nameturn.com
   Referral URL: http://www.nameturn.com
   Name Server: No nameserver
   Status: ok
   Updated Date: 30-mar-2013
   Creation Date: 30-mar-2013
   Expiration Date: 30-mar-2014

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Re: looking to register a domain that is EXPIRED - PENDING DELETE
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2013, 11:01:32 AM »
Awe, too bad.. Fun run though I guess.

Out of curiosity are you going to tell us what it is?

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Re: looking to register a domain that is EXPIRED - PENDING DELETE
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2013, 11:34:11 AM »
I'd like to figure out what's going on with it first. If it's been squatted, then I definitely wouldn't want to send them any traffic... if you know what I mean. If somebody's just tasting, then I might just check again in a few days.



Looks like it's been updated yet again --

Registrant:
   Andrew Reberry   [email protected]
   1422 Delgany Street
   Suite 400
   Denver, CO  80202
   US
   +1.303.893.0552

Nameservers:
   ns1.namebrightdns.com
   ns2.namebrightdns.com

-- and the guy has a history xD

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Re: looking to register a domain that is EXPIRED - PENDING DELETE
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2013, 05:16:08 PM »
Yup; squatted. You could probably guess what it is; but feel free to ping me on IRC if you're curious :D

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Re: looking to register a domain that is EXPIRED - PENDING DELETE
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2013, 02:50:02 PM »
With global domain names it's harder... I'm happy that it's little easier with the .pl domain names, as there are strict rules as to how long the domain names have this or that status and whois display the exact time - day, hour, minute, second - when the status will change. However there are /available for money/ bots that are able to register domains literally whithin the first miliseconds after the domain is available again.



I remember when you have had idea to get some three letters .com - did you achieve this goal?... : )


Several months ago I've managed to get grd.pl : )
Not in the way I would like to get it, though realistically there would be no other chance to get it at all for years or ever...
« Last Edit: April 06, 2013, 02:51:57 PM by Piotr GRD »

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Re: looking to register a domain that is EXPIRED - PENDING DELETE
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2013, 02:19:37 PM »
I remember when you have had idea to get some three letters .com - did you achieve this goal?... : )

Not yet!

Though I'm really tempted to register ruined.biz for fun. Let's see how long it takes for the squatters to find this one :)